RIF'd Episode 3 : My First Jobby

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[00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:35.400]  Everyone welcome back to Rift.
[00:00:35.400 --> 00:00:39.520]  I'm Kevin and thanks for tuning in on episode 3.
[00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:45.600]  This is a super exciting episode because we got more stuff going on.
[00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:49.800]  But first, job hunt update.
[00:00:49.800 --> 00:00:51.840]  Let's go to the other Kevin in the sky.
[00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:53.400]  Kevin, what you got for me?
[00:00:53.400 --> 00:01:00.360]  Yeah, hi Kevin, this is also Kevin and we're coming back for a job report update.
[00:01:00.360 --> 00:01:06.520]  Today we had three jobs that we made it to the final round in and had amazing feedback
[00:01:06.520 --> 00:01:07.520]  on all three.
[00:01:07.520 --> 00:01:08.520]  The first one was with Rita.
[00:01:08.520 --> 00:01:14.360]  I know we talked about her before, we'll go a bit deeper into that.
[00:01:14.360 --> 00:01:19.040]  The second one was with a company that deals with containers and shit.
[00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:23.200]  And the third was a company that deals with containers and shit.
[00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:26.440]  Back to you Kevin, thanks.
[00:01:26.440 --> 00:01:27.440]  Thanks a lot Kevin.
[00:01:27.440 --> 00:01:29.440]  Oh god, thanks a lot Kevin.
[00:01:29.440 --> 00:01:31.080]  Turns out I'm the same guy.
[00:01:31.080 --> 00:01:32.200]  But yeah, so what happened?
[00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:36.240]  I had three jobs, I made it to the final rounds on all three of them.
[00:01:36.240 --> 00:01:38.560]  And god love them, they loved me.
[00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:44.080]  They had the best feedback and they loved me so much, but I am just an average 40 year
[00:01:44.080 --> 00:01:45.200]  old white male.
[00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:46.280]  So let's go into it.
[00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:47.940]  So the first one was with Rita.
[00:01:47.940 --> 00:01:52.400]  So Rita posted on LinkedIn and she said, "I'm looking for someone to lead the customer success
[00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:55.200]  organization that I'm leading, but be under me."
[00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:57.640]  And I was like, "Be under Rita, sign me up."
[00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:01.400]  So I reached out to her on LinkedIn and I was like, "Hey, I need a job and this sounds
[00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:04.840]  like something I want to do, like developing the program.
[00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:05.840]  Should I apply?"
[00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:07.720]  She said, "Absolutely, yes.
[00:02:07.720 --> 00:02:10.120]  I was hoping you would reach out."
[00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:13.280]  So I did and what, how on?
[00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:15.520]  Coffee sip.
[00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:22.040]  So I interviewed with like three people and you know, it was the recruiter lady, it was
[00:02:22.040 --> 00:02:26.040]  the head of the Solutions Architect team, it was the head of support.
[00:02:26.040 --> 00:02:29.960]  And then I was supposed to interview with Rita, which I did.
[00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:33.740]  And I got on the phone with her and she was looking disheveled as ever.
[00:02:33.740 --> 00:02:39.340]  And she basically spent the whole hour dissuading me not to take the job and telling me how
[00:02:39.340 --> 00:02:44.040]  fucking awful it was, which was another first by the way.
[00:02:44.040 --> 00:02:48.000]  And I grinned and bared it and said at the end, "This sounds great.
[00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:50.720]  I want to do it because I want a fucking job, Rita.
[00:02:50.720 --> 00:02:53.280]  And I want some money and you know I can do this shit.
[00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:56.240]  We've worked together and I will do whatever."
[00:02:56.240 --> 00:03:02.480]  And I'm a sycophantic yes man in the workplace despite my oppositional defiant behavior everywhere
[00:03:02.480 --> 00:03:03.480]  else.
[00:03:03.480 --> 00:03:04.600]  So let's do it.
[00:03:04.600 --> 00:03:05.880]  And she said, "Great."
[00:03:05.880 --> 00:03:10.740]  And then weeks go by and the recruiter is dodging me.
[00:03:10.740 --> 00:03:13.400]  And then ultimately, and then she's like, "Did Rita reach out to you?
[00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:14.400]  Did Rita reach out to you?"
[00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:15.400]  She asked multiple times.
[00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:16.400]  I was like, "No."
[00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:17.840]  And she was like, "Okay."
[00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:23.040]  So she called me, the recruiter lady, and she said, "They're not going to open this
[00:03:23.040 --> 00:03:24.040]  position anymore.
[00:03:24.040 --> 00:03:25.920]  They decided not to do it."
[00:03:25.920 --> 00:03:27.160]  So I was like, "Great."
[00:03:27.160 --> 00:03:32.440]  And she said, "Rita should be reaching out to you to discuss it more."
[00:03:32.440 --> 00:03:33.560]  She never fucking called me.
[00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:40.240]  By the way, she completely ghosted me, which makes Rita a thousand percent dead to me.
[00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:41.240]  It's so weird.
[00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:46.440]  I don't know why I let myself enter this abusive relationship.
[00:03:46.440 --> 00:03:48.160]  So I was like, "Fuck you guys.
[00:03:48.160 --> 00:03:49.720]  I didn't want that job anyway.
[00:03:49.720 --> 00:03:50.720]  Sour grapes.
[00:03:50.720 --> 00:03:52.840]  Eat shit."
[00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:58.240]  And then I got another, I was in another group of interviews for this container company.
[00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:03.480]  It was like container security, portability, cost savings.
[00:04:03.480 --> 00:04:05.240]  And this was a startup.
[00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:12.760]  And I interviewed with the CEO, the CTO, the senior VP of engineering.
[00:04:12.760 --> 00:04:18.040]  And there was another guy, the senior product manager, lead product manager.
[00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:19.280]  And they all loved me.
[00:04:19.280 --> 00:04:23.920]  This was for head of support slash head of customer success, which I know is a pretty
[00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:25.960]  big red flag, right?
[00:04:25.960 --> 00:04:29.000]  It's a dual job, so it already means shit's fucked.
[00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:35.000]  But I wanted that because it's kind of like a cool title that you could put on your resume
[00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:36.600]  and be like, "Look at my resume.
[00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:37.600]  I did all these things.
[00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:39.280]  I'm my leader."
[00:04:39.280 --> 00:04:45.640]  So I went through all the interviews there and weeks go by, like pinging the recruiter
[00:04:45.640 --> 00:04:47.120]  like, "Hey, what's going on?
[00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:48.120]  I haven't heard anything.
[00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:49.120]  Is the feedback good?
[00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:50.120]  The feedback was great.
[00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:51.120]  They love you.
[00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:52.120]  They love you."
[00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:53.120]  The recruiter was in Spain too.
[00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:58.000]  So like anytime I would reach out to her, she was already asleep or partying or I don't
[00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:01.000]  know what they do in Spain, sleep parties.
[00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:02.480]  She would get back, "No, it's great.
[00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:03.480]  It's great.
[00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:05.520]  We're just interviewing candidates."
[00:05:05.520 --> 00:05:10.400]  But a month and a half went by and she said, "Oh, by the way, we've opted not to open
[00:05:10.400 --> 00:05:11.400]  this position.
[00:05:11.400 --> 00:05:13.680]  They're not going to fund it, maybe in November."
[00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:18.760]  So that's two for two now of positions where I made it to the very end, they were gushing.
[00:05:18.760 --> 00:05:26.280]  They were like straight up fucking gushers about me and they ultimately closed the position.
[00:05:26.280 --> 00:05:28.320]  So that was cool.
[00:05:28.320 --> 00:05:32.520]  And then I got an interview with another container company.
[00:05:32.520 --> 00:05:37.080]  It was a container security company and I went through all these interviews.
[00:05:37.080 --> 00:05:38.080]  I went through the recruiter.
[00:05:38.080 --> 00:05:39.600]  I went through the hiring manager.
[00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:43.160]  I went through the hiring manager's right hand man.
[00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:46.800]  And then it was sort of, and then I went through the head of the solution architects
[00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:50.480]  again and they all loved me and they said I'd be a great fit.
[00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:55.480]  And then like a week goes by and they're like, "P.S.
[00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:56.880]  We're not going to open this position."
[00:05:56.880 --> 00:05:58.800]  I was like, "What the fuck?
[00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:04.760]  Do people just talk to me and realize that their shit is inefficient or hyper efficient?
[00:06:04.760 --> 00:06:05.760]  Maybe they don't need me?"
[00:06:05.760 --> 00:06:11.840]  I don't know what it is, but I got a scarlet letter for applying to these jobs.
[00:06:11.840 --> 00:06:14.360]  Customer success is bullshit, first of all.
[00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:15.360]  We all know it.
[00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:18.840]  So I get why they're like not opening these positions, but come on man, don't you want
[00:06:18.840 --> 00:06:19.840]  to work with me?
[00:06:19.840 --> 00:06:22.840]  Don't you want to work with me?
[00:06:22.840 --> 00:06:24.320]  That's cool.
[00:06:24.320 --> 00:06:29.280]  But it turns out they don't want to work with me or even have that job available.
[00:06:29.280 --> 00:06:34.040]  So that's kind of where I left off and I'm just humming through this.
[00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:38.600]  I apologize if I'm talking too fast.
[00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:39.600]  Just take a breath.
[00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:45.200]  I'm so fucking amped up about being constantly rejected in the same manner.
[00:06:45.200 --> 00:06:48.840]  It's infuriating and frustrating.
[00:06:48.840 --> 00:06:51.240]  So that's sort of where we are today.
[00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:55.640]  I have a job interview today with another customer success company.
[00:06:55.640 --> 00:06:58.880]  The recruiter loved me and I don't know.
[00:06:58.880 --> 00:07:00.560]  I don't know what's going to happen.
[00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:05.760]  But on other news, I'm starting college and that was a weird transition because I actually
[00:07:05.760 --> 00:07:06.760]  did cut there.
[00:07:06.760 --> 00:07:12.680]  I mean, I'm trying to do this stuff in less than 10 takes, but more than one take.
[00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:16.580]  So if there's any jarring shit going on, that's why.
[00:07:16.580 --> 00:07:23.320]  I'm going back to college, going, going back, back to college, college, and I'm going to
[00:07:23.320 --> 00:07:25.840]  Western Governors University.
[00:07:25.840 --> 00:07:28.000]  There's a bunch of Western Governors.
[00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:31.320]  You know, West End Governor in a dead end town.
[00:07:31.320 --> 00:07:34.880]  They started a university and I'm going there.
[00:07:34.880 --> 00:07:41.040]  It's a fully online and you pay every six months and you do the classes at your own
[00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:47.920]  speed, which hopefully is for me like Sonic the Hedgehog speed.
[00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:53.840]  And I don't drop any rings and we finish and I get a degree and that degree gets to go
[00:07:53.840 --> 00:08:01.920]  on my resume and then I don't get auto rejected by the evil auto rejection bots that look
[00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:04.760]  at my resume and don't like me.
[00:08:04.760 --> 00:08:06.160]  So that should be fun.
[00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:12.000]  And I'm actually looking forward to it and I'm only going to use chat GPT for 80% of
[00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:18.520]  my work and I will massage the content, you know, after it spits it out because God knows
[00:08:18.520 --> 00:08:21.360]  it doesn't know what the fuck it's talking about.
[00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:28.760]  So that starts on November 1st and hopefully I can finish the entire degree before I owe
[00:08:28.760 --> 00:08:31.600]  them money again, which would be six months later.
[00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:34.200]  And it doesn't seem that impossible to be honest.
[00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:36.800]  So stay tuned on that front.
[00:08:36.800 --> 00:08:41.920]  Maybe you'll have some more updates about how schooling looks and what that is in my
[00:08:41.920 --> 00:08:42.920]  life.
[00:08:42.920 --> 00:08:43.920]  I don't know.
[00:08:43.920 --> 00:08:45.620]  Does anyone even care?
[00:08:45.620 --> 00:08:51.920]  But I was trying to think about what I wanted to talk about this episode despite all the
[00:08:51.920 --> 00:08:53.120]  updates I just gave you.
[00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:57.560]  And I was, I don't know, I was trying to think back like to my very first job.
[00:08:57.560 --> 00:08:59.420]  What was your first job?
[00:08:59.420 --> 00:09:04.040]  It's weird because I feel like my first job might've been one of the best jobs I ever
[00:09:04.040 --> 00:09:06.560]  had.
[00:09:06.560 --> 00:09:10.800]  And that's tough to reconcile because where do you go from there?
[00:09:10.800 --> 00:09:14.680]  So I started working when I was 14.
[00:09:14.680 --> 00:09:21.360]  I got a job at a kid's like after school program for kids where parents would, you know, they're
[00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:25.200]  working, they can't get their kids from school, they can't have their kids go home because
[00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.120]  they're in elementary school.
[00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:32.960]  They would come to the cafeteria after school and hang out with us.
[00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:37.320]  And we would help them with their homework and we would play games with them and we would
[00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:40.000]  run around and we would give them a snack.
[00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:41.420]  And it was just great.
[00:09:41.420 --> 00:09:48.960]  The kids were awesome and they came from an entire, you know, the entirety of the America,
[00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:55.240]  America diaspora, the entirety of the America diaspora on PPR.
[00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:56.280]  Next.
[00:09:56.280 --> 00:09:59.760]  So you know, we had all these different kids and they were awesome and they loved me because
[00:09:59.760 --> 00:10:03.520]  I'm like goofball and I just say dumb stuff and we, you know, I would help them with their
[00:10:03.520 --> 00:10:08.280]  homework and I would throw kickballs at their head and we would have a great time.
[00:10:08.280 --> 00:10:10.080]  And that job was amazing.
[00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:13.280]  It paid me $6 an hour.
[00:10:13.280 --> 00:10:15.160]  This was 1996.
[00:10:15.160 --> 00:10:20.480]  So dating myself a bit, but the minimum wage, this was in Maryland, was 425.
[00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:25.360]  So $6 an hour was basically God tier for me.
[00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:28.200]  Everyone I knew didn't make that much.
[00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:30.060]  So I was just cruising.
[00:10:30.060 --> 00:10:35.520]  So every day I would walk to high school and I would do that.
[00:10:35.520 --> 00:10:39.280]  I would sit in high school and then I would walk back.
[00:10:39.280 --> 00:10:42.000]  I had to walk two miles to high school.
[00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:43.720]  It wasn't uphill both ways.
[00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:45.160]  It was uphill one way though.
[00:10:45.160 --> 00:10:47.800]  So don't at me bro.
[00:10:47.800 --> 00:10:49.600]  It was.
[00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:53.120]  And I had to walk because the bus cutoff was like 2.1 miles.
[00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:55.760]  You could ride the bus, which was actually really good.
[00:10:55.760 --> 00:10:57.440]  It was a nice walk.
[00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:01.440]  It was good to know that you were capable of walking that far.
[00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:02.960]  I was a fat kid.
[00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:05.280]  Okay, I was kind of fat.
[00:11:05.280 --> 00:11:06.920]  And I would walk to school.
[00:11:06.920 --> 00:11:11.680]  I would walk to work and then we would have these kids come and we would play.
[00:11:11.680 --> 00:11:16.480]  I would serve them snack, which was usually like French toast sticks, which now looking
[00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:18.600]  back was like cutting edge.
[00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.560]  My son eats the shit out of some French toast sticks and apparently they've been around
[00:11:22.560 --> 00:11:24.400]  since 1996.
[00:11:24.400 --> 00:11:29.440]  So we would open big containers from Cisco of French toast sticks.
[00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:32.600]  I really wanted to sing the thong song right there.
[00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:38.040]  And like pudding, like a giant fucking can of pudding that you would open.
[00:11:38.040 --> 00:11:39.640]  It was just like vanilla pudding.
[00:11:39.640 --> 00:11:40.640]  So gross looking.
[00:11:40.640 --> 00:11:45.320]  But the kids would slurp that shit up like vanilla pudding and Nilla wafers, chocolate
[00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:46.640]  pudding and Nilla wafers.
[00:11:46.640 --> 00:11:49.760]  And we would just have the greatest time.
[00:11:49.760 --> 00:11:53.880]  And you know, I could see myself doing that job again.
[00:11:53.880 --> 00:11:59.960]  If it weren't paying just dog shit and didn't have any benefits and like actual benefits,
[00:11:59.960 --> 00:12:04.120]  obviously you're benefiting the children, the children.
[00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:05.520]  But it was so much fun.
[00:12:05.520 --> 00:12:07.920]  I mean, the parents were obviously the worst part.
[00:12:07.920 --> 00:12:11.040]  Being a parent myself, I know that we're all shit.
[00:12:11.040 --> 00:12:14.880]  And there were some questionable things that happened there.
[00:12:14.880 --> 00:12:18.960]  Like there was this kid who had, he was like the cutest little kid.
[00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:23.080]  He had the biggest head and he would always come in and have like bruises all over his
[00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.960]  head and be like, I fell out of bed.
[00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:28.240]  And I'm like, is his dad hitting him?
[00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:29.240]  I don't know.
[00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:31.040]  It's gotta be the dad.
[00:12:31.040 --> 00:12:32.080]  He's like, I don't know.
[00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:35.320]  They didn't tell us about mandatory reporting.
[00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:39.040]  We had to take the most remedial first aid classes.
[00:12:39.040 --> 00:12:43.560]  Like I was just stupid and I didn't realize like I should probably be reporting this shit.
[00:12:43.560 --> 00:12:47.400]  And I brought it up to the higher ups and they're like, I don't know.
[00:12:47.400 --> 00:12:56.000]  So it was just a confluence of people derelicting duty around this kid.
[00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:57.200]  So hopefully he's okay.
[00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:01.120]  And he was falling out of bed and running into shit because I've also met kids that
[00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:02.720]  are doing that now.
[00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:08.280]  Like now I know that there are kids who just like run into shit all the time and always
[00:13:08.280 --> 00:13:10.000]  have head injuries.
[00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:14.720]  So I don't know what is right and what is wrong, but man, I hope that kid's okay.
[00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:16.960]  And I hope he hates his dad.
[00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:19.480]  And it was just a great time.
[00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:21.920]  I loved working there.
[00:13:21.920 --> 00:13:25.720]  And then when the school year would end, I've said um a lot, I apologize.
[00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:28.680]  If you hate ums, please just delete me.
[00:13:28.680 --> 00:13:31.880]  We would do a summer camp and that was all day.
[00:13:31.880 --> 00:13:35.880]  So I should say the school camp was like from 3 p.m. to 6 p.m.
[00:13:35.880 --> 00:13:37.480]  It was super easy.
[00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:38.800]  I would spend three hours there.
[00:13:38.800 --> 00:13:43.880]  I would get paid my $18 before taxes and then I would go home.
[00:13:43.880 --> 00:13:49.320]  And I didn't spend my money on anything except for Code Red Mountain Dew and regular Mountain
[00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:55.560]  Dew and little Debbie's oatmeal cream pies.
[00:13:55.560 --> 00:13:59.720]  Just the stereotypical of like an ultimate fat kid.
[00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:03.080]  Buy this stuff, go home and play video games.
[00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:04.480]  And it was great.
[00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:06.480]  So we would have a summer camp too.
[00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:09.400]  And the summer camp was longer hours obviously.
[00:14:09.400 --> 00:14:14.880]  And the kids would come for the whole day and we would try to fill their time.
[00:14:14.880 --> 00:14:20.200]  And let me just say that my kids went to summer camp this year and the year before that put
[00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:23.260]  on by the city, Castle Rock.
[00:14:23.260 --> 00:14:26.200]  And it was very regimented.
[00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:29.520]  Like you could see the schedule that all the little counselors had because they're all
[00:14:29.520 --> 00:14:31.660]  like teenagers like I was.
[00:14:31.660 --> 00:14:34.880]  And it said like every half hour increment was accounted for.
[00:14:34.880 --> 00:14:37.040]  Here's what we're going to do.
[00:14:37.040 --> 00:14:38.720]  Summer camp I worked at was not like that.
[00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:42.360]  The only thing that we had that was regimented was like when we were going to the pool.
[00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:44.720]  Like Wednesdays we would go to the pool.
[00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:47.280]  Other than that it was pretty free form.
[00:14:47.280 --> 00:14:50.520]  They had some activities but the kids didn't always want to do them.
[00:14:50.520 --> 00:14:54.640]  So a lot of the times the kids would just hang out.
[00:14:54.640 --> 00:14:57.880]  And I was in charge of the fourth and fifth graders when I was working there.
[00:14:57.880 --> 00:15:03.160]  So that's like also a weird age where the kids are trying to find their independence
[00:15:03.160 --> 00:15:06.240]  but they look up to adults.
[00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:10.760]  You know when you're a kid and there's an adult with you, I was an adult to them which
[00:15:10.760 --> 00:15:20.080]  is also hilarious because I was like 16, 14, 15, one of those and clearly not an adult.
[00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:23.200]  And they looked up to me and were like Kevin what should we do?
[00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:25.080]  What are we going to do?
[00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:26.320]  It was hard to fill the time.
[00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:28.680]  So we would just come up with stupid games.
[00:15:28.680 --> 00:15:34.320]  We used to have these big, those big Gatorade coolers, the big orange ones for water so
[00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:36.120]  kids could drink water.
[00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:42.480]  We would just put that on a wooden picnic table with the spout over the table, not over the
[00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:43.880]  empty space.
[00:15:43.880 --> 00:15:49.280]  And we would just push the button and let a little water out and see how far down the
[00:15:49.280 --> 00:15:52.800]  wood grain the water would go.
[00:15:52.800 --> 00:15:55.680]  And I was like alright kids, let's do it.
[00:15:55.680 --> 00:15:56.880]  We're going to boosh it.
[00:15:56.880 --> 00:15:59.800]  So we called it booshing from then on.
[00:15:59.800 --> 00:16:01.200]  They're like Kevin can we boosh it?
[00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:02.200]  Can we do booshing?
[00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:04.280]  It's like sure let's boosh it.
[00:16:04.280 --> 00:16:09.000]  They would all gather around and we would have a kid hit the thing or I would hit it
[00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.120]  and they'd be like boosh it.
[00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:19.320]  And the water would go and see who got the farthest and we spent hours booshing.
[00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:23.640]  And I feel like I really robbed those children of some developmental time.
[00:16:23.640 --> 00:16:25.240]  But maybe they're good at booshing now.
[00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:32.600]  I mean who knows in this post-scarcity world maybe booshing will be an art form.
[00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:36.480]  So I wish them the best in their booshery.
[00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:37.480]  But the summer camp was great.
[00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:39.040]  It was a lot of fun.
[00:16:39.040 --> 00:16:40.320]  I lost a bunch of weight.
[00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:42.920]  I kissed a girl for the first time.
[00:16:42.920 --> 00:16:44.560]  It wasn't a kid.
[00:16:44.560 --> 00:16:46.320]  Jesus how could you say that?
[00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:48.040]  That's fucked up you people.
[00:16:48.040 --> 00:16:50.120]  I know you jumped right there.
[00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:53.320]  No it was another counselor who later became my girlfriend.
[00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:55.720]  It was great.
[00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:58.760]  And it was just so much fun.
[00:16:58.760 --> 00:17:01.360]  The guy that ran the camp, his name was Joe.
[00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:03.080]  And we would play stuff like dodgeball.
[00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:08.840]  This guy was like 30 but since I was 16 and I also think all adults, it's just like a
[00:17:08.840 --> 00:17:11.280]  binary thing like you're an adult, he could have been 60.
[00:17:11.280 --> 00:17:12.280]  I don't know.
[00:17:12.280 --> 00:17:16.440]  He would get those, we would play dodgeball and we used the red kickball balls.
[00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:19.080]  And he would just huck them at fucking kids.
[00:17:19.080 --> 00:17:23.520]  Like he hit a kid in the face and the kid was bleeding and this guy owned the camp so
[00:17:23.520 --> 00:17:25.800]  he was just like oh just walk it off.
[00:17:25.800 --> 00:17:26.800]  Walk it off.
[00:17:26.800 --> 00:17:32.360]  And they would like throw the ball at their legs and just seeing their little toothpick
[00:17:32.360 --> 00:17:39.000]  legs buckle under the weight of this 60 year old man hucking this ball as hard as he could
[00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:43.440]  at their legs and it just swept them away like a tsunami.
[00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:46.800]  And just witnessing that was incredible.
[00:17:46.800 --> 00:17:48.920]  Maybe Joe was punching that former kid in the head.
[00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:49.920]  I don't know.
[00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:50.920]  It was great.
[00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:54.120]  We had a bunch of people of all walks of life working there.
[00:17:54.120 --> 00:18:00.320]  We had a lady named Miriam and she was a black woman and she was Jewish and I had never met
[00:18:00.320 --> 00:18:01.920]  a black Jewish person before.
[00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:03.840]  I was like can you even do that?
[00:18:03.840 --> 00:18:04.960]  Like this was mind blowing to me.
[00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:06.920]  I didn't know that existed.
[00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:12.360]  So just me being an idiot and learning about the world and interacting with all these cool
[00:18:12.360 --> 00:18:15.240]  people it was awesome and I loved it.
[00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:18.440]  And I think I made $8 an hour at the summer camp.
[00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:23.800]  And I was balling and I didn't have any money problems and I had a car now.
[00:18:23.800 --> 00:18:29.520]  I finally learned how to drive later on like in the very end of my high school career.
[00:18:29.520 --> 00:18:33.080]  I didn't get my driver's license until I was 18 and that made me a weirdo.
[00:18:33.080 --> 00:18:34.320]  I just didn't want money.
[00:18:34.320 --> 00:18:40.320]  Alright I didn't need money I should say and I didn't need a car to spend the money on.
[00:18:40.320 --> 00:18:41.320]  It was just great.
[00:18:41.320 --> 00:18:42.320]  I had all this money.
[00:18:42.320 --> 00:18:46.480]  I had nothing to spend it on except Code Red and Mountain Dew.
[00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:47.480]  Regular Mountain Dew.
[00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:48.480]  Code Red.
[00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:49.480]  Mountain Dew.
[00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:50.480]  Code Red.
[00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:52.480]  And regular Mountain Dew.
[00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:56.400]  And Little Debby's which are far superior to Hostess.
[00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.920]  If you stand for Hostess you are wrong.
[00:18:59.920 --> 00:19:01.800]  You're 100% wrong.
[00:19:01.800 --> 00:19:06.840]  And I hope you realize that as this podcast comes to an end.
[00:19:06.840 --> 00:19:08.000]  That's really all I have to say.
[00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:13.600]  I loved that job and it really set me up for disappointment in my future job.
[00:19:13.600 --> 00:19:14.760]  So that sort of ended.
[00:19:14.760 --> 00:19:17.960]  I was 18 and I went to college.
[00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:19.320]  And that was a thing.
[00:19:19.320 --> 00:19:21.880]  Ultimately I did fail out of college.
[00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:23.160]  I can talk about that.
[00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:24.160]  It's special.
[00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:25.280]  It's a special time.
[00:19:25.280 --> 00:19:28.360]  But I've already wasted so much of your special time.
[00:19:28.360 --> 00:19:33.000]  So really I want to say from the bottom of my heart.
[00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:34.820]  Thank you for listening.
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